Getting to the ‘Aha’ Moment for Useful Risk Metrics – Highlights of Discussion from CCRO’s April 2012 Members’ Meeting

by Jim Pierobon

Jack Yeager of The De Laval Yeager Group and CCRO Executive Director Bob Anderson drove a discussion at the CCRO’s April 2012 to help launch the new CCRO Working Group Risk Metrics sub-committee at the annual Risk Networking Summit September 26-28 in The Woodlands, Texas.

Yeager was quick to point out that many risk managers tend to settle on a metric “before they even know what question it is they’re trying to answer.” CCRO members don’t want to calculate risk metrics just for the sake of having metrics. “We typically calculate them because somebody has a burning question they need to answer,” Yeager said. 

It’s clear from the CCRO dialogue since then that a better practice – dare we say the best practice – is to start by agreeing not only about what question needs answering but how the answer will be useful to relevant colleagues throughout the company.

So instead of moving to define something as general as ‘earnings at risk” what would be really useful is how sensitive corporate earnings might be to five or six variables.

“If you get  people to set the math aside for a second and just think about what it is they want to know, you can get an amazingly robust list that can lead to helpful thoughts about metrics,” Yeager said. “Your goal is to get the stakeholder who’s going to be making decisions on this metric to say, “Aha, THAT’s what I was looking for. I can completely believe the numbers.”

“It’s not about a particular metric, it’s about the insight that you’re looking for,” Yeager explained.


Some of the April meeting attendees cited the forward price risks inherent in Financial Transmission Rights, or FTRs. 

Yeager pounced on this is a good illustration of the challenge of crafting a useful risk metric:

“Is it the movement between now and settlement? Do you want to understand it as a full distribution? Do you want to understand fifth percentile thirty day?” Yeager asked. “There are all sorts of different ways that you might go after that.”


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Yeager drilled down about FTRs to make his point. “There seems to be  . . . an over-reaction of FTR auction prices to the last few days of day-ahead prices. So the question is: ‘Does your model even pick that up? Or does it just pick up the random standard deviation sort of behavior of the FTR market.’ “

Anderson recalled while working a an energy company before assuming the helm of the CCRO how a “huge amount of money” was spent trying to devise a global Value at Risk (VaR) across all products and books.

“The senior executive wanted just one number,” Anderson remembered. “Not surprisingly, they never did come up with that. It was finally determined that such a metric was potentially 'misinformation',” he said, to much laughter among the meeting’s participants.

An unidentified speaker offered: “I recall very well when you get in that trap that you were talking about. You have traders that are not wrong, they’re just thinking differently about risk. The risk manager, meanwhile, is the guy with the limits. They are unable to reach an understanding.”

This attendee found it helpful to use “sharp ratios” to come up with a potential earnings range given a VaR limit - or earnings targets. In that context, it’s helpful to ask, “what's a reasonable VaR?” The risk manager can discuss with the trading manager how much are we going to make on these positions? What (are) your earnings going to look like.”

Yeager and Anderson aspire for working group sessions along these lines that the Group and CCRO members  can rely on  when risk managers inside a company present the metric and results “to remind everyone,” Yeager said, “why we wound up where we did.”



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Jim Pierobon

Pierobon & Partners LLC

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Jim Pierobon is a career-long advocate of lower-emitting sources of power generation and smarter grids. Jim works with various energy concerns through his consultancy, Pierobon & Partners LLC. He is a former Chief Energy Writer for the Houston Chronicle and has co-managed the energy and environmental practice at Ogilvy Public Relations Worldwide in Washington and New York City. He managed external relations for the American Council On Renewable Energy (ACORE) in Washington, DC during a key phase in its evolution and assisted Standard Solar, Inc. one of the fastest growing integrators, financiers and developers of solar energy companies in the Eastern and Midwestern U.S. More recently he helped strengthen communications, marketing and outreach for the Maryland Clean Energy Center and developed Maryland’s first consumer portal for renewable sources of electric power supplies.